President Bush Addresses Members of the Knessetnote: the ubiquitous "Some" (one of W's favorite rhetorical tricks - the strawman "some")... in this case none-too-subtly addressing the willingness of some Democrats (and SecDef Gates, and SecState Rice) to actually establish a dialog with Iran.
15 May 2008
"... Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided." We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.
When the U.S. President addresses the parliament of another country, the assumption is that he is speaking as the leader of America, not as a partisan politician. To use the occasion to attempt to score domestic political points is extremely bad form... but somehow, W couldn't help himself.
ap·pease·mentNote: "Appeasement" in the sense used by W requires the "granting of concessions" in return for at least the promise of peace (e.g., Neville Chamberlain granting Hitler the right to incorporate a large portion of Czechoslovakia, in exchange for Hitler's promise, "This is my last territorial demand.").
2. The policy of granting concessions to potential enemies to maintain peace.
[American Heritage Dictionary, from Dictionary.com]
"Appeasement" is NOT implied by a willingness to simply TALK with the perceived enemy.
W - his schoolyard bully persona intact - fails to discern the difference. Talk, negotiation, diplomacy... these are foreign concepts (probably French!).
The Conventional Wisdom suggests that we've only about 8 months more to tolerate W.
I'm not convinced he's leaving!
... For what it's worth: the fellow W quoted was a REPUBLICAN:
William Edgar BorahStop the madness!
William Edgar Borah (June 29, 1865 near Fairfield, Illinois – January 19, 1940 Washington, D.C.) was a prominent Republican attorney and longtime United States Senator from Idaho noted for his oratorical skills and isolationist views. One of his nicknames later in life was "The Lion of Idaho.""'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided." —1939, regarding Germany's invasion of Poland (attributed) McKenna, Marian (1961). "Borah". The Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science 338: 156-157.[Wikipedia, William Edgar Borah]
p.s. A debating tip: In the event your opponent cites "Some" or "Some people" holding a particular view or advocating a particular course of action, challenge him or her to name just one specific person holding the view or advocating the course of action. "SOME" is a none-too-clever suggestive dodge - demand specifics!
p.p.s. ... another debating tip: if YOU can identify a specific individual from your opponent's own camp advocating the derided position, so much the better. For example, W lambasts those who would
"... negotiate with the terrorists and radicals"It would be nice to have ready to hand an example of just such a person... say, for example, SecDef Gates
Gates urges more nongovernment contacts with IranFor what it's worth: to every and all Dem candidates - even for County DogCatcher - RUN ON W's RECORD!
Thu May 15, 2008
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates called on Wednesday for more unofficial contacts with Iran, saying this might eventually open a pathway to more substantive dialogue between the governments.